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advice on natural alternatives

letchi — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 23:16:36 GMT

OK, I have total acceptance, I mean it , I have finally accepted it, I get panic attacks in public after hockey etc and they just don't bother me, no one can even tell I am having them, but here is the thing that gets me, the dam fatigue I am tired all the time, now I know my mind racing has something to do with this and eventually it will just give up and go away. my question is in order to function sometimes we need something to get over the hump, the energy we need to make it through the day, or to quite the mind. I have noticed a few things like l-theanine, 5 htp and a blend of Valerian root and passion flower have promising effects to get me back where I need to be for my busy and athletic schedule. Does anyone have nay experiences to the following or could concur with my theory.

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zombie from celexa

ann — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:53:14 GMT

Hi All, I thought I would give meds a try so my Dr started me out with a low dose .5mg of Celexa I took it for 1 day and the effects were not very pleasant, lightheadedness, nausea,agitation,headaches,dry eyes and mouth,confusion, and feeling like I had the flu and also major insomnia. I called the paharmacist and he said to discontinue use as it was such a low dose and I had way to many side effects. Back to the drawing board !!!!!!!! Just wondered if anyone experienced this. Not sure if Meds are for me, may have to ride it out like I did in the past . Take Care.

Ann

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heart and heat

Sandra07 — Sat, 05 Jul 2008 09:12:24 GMT

Hi, Its me again

The weather is really hot here in Norway now (believe it or not), and of course my heart is having a life of its own....Its constantly racing and pounding (maybe about 90-95 bpm when sitting/lying), and I am getting so tired of it. Is this really "normal"? I know claire weekes writes about hot weather and symptoms....but I have them also when I take the betablocker...My doc says its nothing to worry about...but it feels like it...and I don`t have the energy to do anything..Does anyone have any experiences with this?

sandra

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Help anyone?

ho0olly — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 19:42:08 GMT

Sunday my husbands employer is going to take us on the Port City Princess a huge ship on Lake Michigan 4 hours ..I have never been out on the lake like that in such a big boat I wont be able to say (( ok take me home now )) my flight to my safe place HOME!! My what ifs are going crazy I know stop the what ifs but they just keep pipping in !!! I have not been away from home in years!!!! and if we do go away I know... I can always say ok take me home now ..lol cant say that out on lake Michigan haha Any words to help would be GREATTTTTTTTTTTT We have planned to go see his mom she is 8 hours away one way I keep coming up with stuff to get out of going (( SHAME ON ME!!!)) what if I have a panic attack I'm so far from home What if this what if that UGGH One thing at a time I guess get past the boat work on going out of town lol

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Some things to consider - Part One!

nervousuk — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 14:45:23 GMT

I hope this may be of some use to some of you. I welcome any thoughts on it. These were some of the things that helped me to address it all.

What is this? Get the facts - This is Believe it is Less question, more statement.

I cant I will try to I can Believe in yourself and the method It is a choice to try or not to try and face fear. We all have that choice.

What if - dont speculate mother of all negative anticipatory thoughts try so what! , I will face whatever happens No doing, no results, no way forward.

I am going crazy try I am just confused because of my anxiety or no one goes insane with anxiety and this will pass try and stay in the reality with the facts.

What if docs have got this all wrong and I am an exception to the rule very common thought highly unlikely - try whatever my doctor says I will accept and stop questioning this problem . If necessary and still in doubt seek a second opinion to reinforce the truth. Two doctors will not be wrong.

I wont be able to face my fear, I will go to pieces you have already suffered the worst you are going to suffer, flashes of fear come, they always pass. Shorten the length of the flash of fear by not adding second fear. With each sensation or fearful thought you feel ( sometimes they seem as one they can come so quickly) try not to question it, accept it, stop adding more confusion with secondary fearit is this that causes full blown panic and releases rushes of adrenaline. The adrenaline rush can only last a certain length of time then it stops to replenish.

I am pathetic, useless. Try I can and I will, I am just nervously exhausted, this will pass if I face my fears Look to your strengths not your weaknesses.

I hate myself and what I am putting others through then make a stand and a decision to do your best to face your fears. It is a pointless thought if you dont rectify it. It just indulges you in more reasons to feel weak. They think I am, so I will be syndrome too.

I am too tired to do this then rest. Rest whenever you can. Exhaustion is common and exacerbates everything. If you have trouble sleeping just grab sleep whenever you feel tiredness coming on and its convenient. A couple of weeks of a benzo may help get you rested up, its an option. You need to be rested to be stronger to face your fears.

I am going to die you wont , trust menot from an anxiety attack you wont. Fear does not kill. Fear can be a life saver. You need to feel fear to know danger. Adrenaline is there to help you save yourself when there is a danger. Just remember that the danger you feel is not real in this instance, it is fear misplaced. It feels mysterious, like going into the unknown and you feel out of control because you dont always understand it. Make it a point to rationalise the irrational. Help yourself to stop being so bewildered.

Sue

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help...anyone?

Sandra07 — Fri, 04 Jul 2008 08:51:11 GMT

Hi

I have been suffering from weak, stiff legs (thighs and hip) and wondered if this has anything to do with adrenaline/tension over a long period of time?

I am so sick and tired of this...my legs ache all the time, if I try to walk or exercise, they start to ache, or if I sit still for a while, they also start to ache. They also feel very weak...just walking up a stair make them feel weak, burning..like I have been running a marathon..can this have something to do with lack of muscles and blood deprivation due to inacitivty over time? Or is it purely and anxiety symptom?

I start to worry that there is something really serious wrong with me, and I feel so sick all the time....
my doctor says its due to inactivity and anxiety....but nothing seems to help. should I just be patient and accept all this)

A little frustrated Sandra

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whoo hoo!! happy fourth of July!!!

tammy — Thur, 03 Jul 2008 18:43:05 GMT

Hope you all have a safe and happy fourth!!!!
What do you all have planned????

I have a BBQ at my sissies on the lake... Finally a holiday with a meal the Men cook!!!! lol

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thoughts. thoughts, thoughts....

sondy — Thur, 03 Jul 2008 14:00:42 GMT

suggestability....... this is me for the last 5 days. i read somewhere on line a head line that read..... MEDS THAT DOCTORS WONT EVEN TAKE. and ofcourse, i read it, thinking. no big deal, actually i didnt think anything at all. and OFCOURSE... one med that i read about was. PPI's ( nexium, prilosec, protonix etc. ) i am on protonix and have been on it for close to 2 years. they said in this report that it is possibly linked to heart attacks. so what did i do ??????????????? i stopped taking it. AND i have been sick for the last 4 days. sick with my stomach, and then came the anxiety.....the nerves, which of course makes the stomach worse, which inturn makes the anxiety worse. < sigh > somewhere in my head I KNOW BETTER but i put myself through it anyway. this i do not understand. and now that i am off the protonix for 5 days , i'm scared to get back on it. sheeeeeeesh. this is such a vicious cycle. and such a horrible merry go round, can someone help me stop this thing so i can get the hell off ?

thank you

sondy

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Quite the eye opener

Jesse — Thur, 03 Jul 2008 03:19:44 GMT

Hello everyone, how are you all?

I recently went through a life experience that has changed who I am (and consequently how I deal with panic) -- and it's amazing, to say the least.

I've been homeless for the past week... Eating when and where I can, sleeping where I could find adequate surfaces, and living out of a garbage bag of clothes. I expected myself to be scared, frightened, and afraid of my position and where I was; however, I was shockingly surprised to find out that, though I worried about things, I was not scared whatsoever...

Realizing this, I felt a calm I haven't in awhile -- where even the physical symptoms of panic didn't bother me. To be able to look up into the blue sky, on my back, and laugh because of shapes in the clouds. (To those who remember, I've had a problem with the sky for awhile now... Really weird fear, I know, but it's there =])

I have a determination now, that I haven't had before -- and a complete resurgence in my forgotten confidence.. As bad as the situation itself seems -- sometimes it takes a life-changing event or hardship to make us realize how strong we really are.

I love you all,

~ Jesse

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Acceptance

drockshakur — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 18:32:35 GMT

I just wanted to share this with other people who are struggling. I've found the most helpful definition of acceptance. It's in a post on this board, I wrote it down because it helped so much in understanding what TRUE acceptance is..

Accepting undesirable conditions when you definitely don't like them but cannot change them. Refusing to upset yourself about what you can not change.

We want to control everything to do with panic, control our reactions, our thoughts. We have to accept that some things are out of our control, like breathing, swallowing, sleeping, etc.. Panic is another one of those things. Let go of that strong hold you have on yourself. Let the panic come all over you, and see it right through to the end. This is an automatic response to fear, you can't control fear as Jeff and Dr. Weekes have both said many times before. It's beyond our conscious control. "So just how are you to let go of that tense hold on yourself?" All the consequences of panic are just a bluff.

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DP/DR Confused

Stefanie — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 06:52:18 GMT

Just wondering how many also have depersonalization or derealization as part of their panic disorder. The reason I ask is that I just read something about how those two symptoms can be related to migraine headache. It flipped me out a little because I was getting the impression from what I read that it is something that is unavoidable. I am a migraine sufferer and never related the two. Now after reading that story I am afraid that if you have one your doomed to have the other. Part of me believes this is not the case and all panic symptoms can be controlled by using methods advised by Jeff and Claire Weekes. I guess I just need to hear that confirmation again.

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Wonder Drug for PMT

ozinpanic — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 03:12:23 GMT

Hi y'all

Busy away in my kitchen i heard an ad for an upcoming current affairs show suggesting that they have found a wonder drug for PMT. Interested of course, i put down everything to watch the program. They went through the facts about chemical imbalances during our cycle, which parts of the brain are affected before, during and after the period and threw in some good words like serentonin (sp?). In the process they were interviewing a couple having relationship difficulties during these pmt moods. They then show the lady popping a pill and turn the camera to the packet. It was Lovan ... now i wasnt too sure but isn't that an anti depressant, hell yeh i surfed it on the net and there it was. They suggested we take it for a couple of weeks a month to harness the mood swings and blah feeling. Whatever happened to Vitamin B6 and Evening Primrose Oil. Maybe i'm just naive but i think it's quite dangerous prescribing this sort of thing for PMT (obviously PMT comes in many different formats but this lady seemed to have what most women suffer just before or after their period... mood swings, fatigue, irritability, blah feeling etc.,) BTW at the end of the program the camera takes the loving couple embracing and looking out into the distant horizon. Happy again!!!

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New update on my progress for jeff or anyone

Jhon — Wed, 02 Jul 2008 02:40:56 GMT

Hello everyone, I have went trough alot these past few months, practicing and learning with ups and downs. But right now I feel I need your help on these one. It
s mainly about fatigue and work. I've read in one of weeke's books saying that mental fatigue can cause our mind to think slow and make concentrating difficult. Sometimes because of this it takes a little while to understand what people are saying to me and a few times I forget things. Sometimes I have this feeling of inward thinking to myself which makes it hard to concentrate on the present.

You bet this is affecting me at work. I have to translate the supervisor in English to Spanish to my team who don't speak English, and that right there is a problem because sometimes he talks fast and I don't understand what he says. To make this even worse this supervisor is very rugged in his work, he wants to finish the job today and we know it takes time. Sometimes when I don't understand what he says he starts getting real mad and repeats what he said again in a high tone of voice. The weird think about him is that in a few hours he's happy again right after being really mad. This goes on almost everyday. Sometimes he talks about today's work in English to the other guys who don't speak English. But we all know and even the boss that his kind of a moody person. The good thing is that we are going to get transferred to another location in a few days away from him. It's been very difficult working with this guy the past few weeks but I'm glad its almost over. But right now I'm still worried about mental fatigue mainly because I don't know how to cope with it.

I also have this other worry about facing the future demands fear may bring. Even though I don't have enough money for college yet I'm worried that in the future when I get the opportunity its going to be like high school again. I'm gonna have to face a lot of my fears and I feel like I haven't made enough progress yet to face the future. I'm asking myself "Am I going to be the same in the future like I am right now". The times when I fall down feels the same like in the beginning. During the present times its really hard to accept the panic feelings. I'm thinking "If I was able to do this a few days ago why can't I do it now".

I welcome and appreciate if you response
jhon

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I hate the way I feel!

emmys2 — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 20:20:22 GMT

Yes, this is my second post today. Can you tell I am having a bad day?

I feel so out of control of my emotions today and I hate it. I am so beyond
just normal grumpiness. Everything DH has done today makes me want to
rip into him and make him feel stupid, even though he has done absolutely
nothing wrong. In fact he is being super sweet (he knows I am grumpy) but
that just seems to be setting me off even more. I dont want him to be nice
to me. I dont want him to even talk to me. WTH is my problem? I feel like I
am on the verge of flying off the handle. Like any second I am going to fly
into some rage. Then I start to freak out and then panic because I feel out of
control and like there is something "wrong" with me.

Sorry for the rant/vent/pity party. I just dont know where else to get it all
out at.

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I need some advice....please

ann — Tue, 01 Jul 2008 18:22:32 GMT

Hi All, I've been struggling with a setback, and have been on and off with anxiety/panic/agoraphobia for 10 years. My Dr. has suggested over the years that taking Celexa is what I need to completely block out the attacks and it will help with the agoraphobia. She has said that the meds really help out and if need be I could stay on them for however long I need to. So last night I took 1/4 of the tablet as she wants me to start out slowly, I was really hesitant on taking it...fear of how I was going to feel etc. My sleep was restless and had some wierd dreams. Would this small amount have an effect like this? It wasn't awful or anything , I just don't know if I want to continue with the meds. I have also heard that 80% off people who stop the meds after awhile get panic attacks again......... I am really frustrated.....my Dr. says take the meds...... my therapist says I can do this med free........I just want to scream already!!!!!!! Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

Ann

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