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Tony Bell 
05/08/09 at 12:05 AM

Where are you from? Australia

Comments:
I find the church hypocritical when it will accept minister who come to the Catholic Church who are married while it restricts the clerical duties of ordained priests who wish to get married.

Teotepeque 
05/05/09 at 08:56 AM

Where are you from? Ohio

Comments:

     Malika, your post underscores the crux of this issue.  Why should anyone have to choose between ministry and the woman he loves?  My heart goes out to you.  Such a sad and unnecessary choice.

     Andrew, your argument is weak and incoherent.  Why is “being different” from lay people of any intrinsic value, unless that “difference” is manifest in greater compassion, sanctity, excellence in preaching  and pastoral care?  People want relevant priests who understand the challenges that they experience in their own lives, not “different” ivory tower dwellers.  

     At a time when half of the worlds parishes lack a resident priests, when dioceses around the world are closing parishes for lack of priests, you blithely acquiesce with your lame demand that priest must be “different.”    You cite the Legionnaires and how they wear black robes and learn Latin.  What is your point?  Are they better than the priests who wear white robes and speak Spanish?  Why not address the hundreds of thousands of Catholics who hunger for the Eucharist because there are no priests to care for them?  Why not address the studies indicating a fourfold increase in vocations of priests could marry?  

     You want different?  Here’s how you get “different” priests.  First, women need not apply (this is a theologically independent, albeit important injustice for another website).   Second, of those MEN, only men who are ready to forever repress even the possibility of any sexual or romantic relationships, step forward – now we are looking at a small and dare I say odd population.  Third, from that group, select only those who are psychologically and sexually healthy and balanced.  You are now left with a very small, “different” pool of candidates.  Fourth, at last, you can begin to consider whether any of these actually have the faith, gifts and talents for excellent ministry.   Oh yeah, these guys have proven themselves to be different all right.  Just ask the thousands of clerical sexual abuse victims.

     I propose an alternate process:  Consider who has the faith, gifts and talents for excellent ministry.  Period.

     To Graham Briscombe, I am grateful that you have taken the initiative to create this website, but frankly, it could and should be much more than it is.  This is the most pressing issue in the RC church today, a change that can happen and must happen.  The website has potential, but little content.  I would like to see much more solid information and resources here.  

     Let’s inform.  Let’s provide a history of the many married popes throughout the centuries, and the history of married priests who served faithfully and continue to serve.    Let’s provide charts and statistics on the alarming and unprecedented widening of the ratio of Catholics to priests, both in the U.S. and around the world.  Let’s provide the theology that people need to understand the canonical distinction between doctrine and discipline.   Let’s provide FAQs and forums to address frequent arguments, such as whether priests could balance time between work and family, or whether parishes could afford to pay married priests.  Let’s provide sample letters and petitions that concerned faithful can send to their bishops to clamor for this change.   

     This should be a place where people who care about the Church and its future can learn, network, organize and mobilize.  What are the action steps that people can take?  I would like to work with you to make it a better site.    I have already compiled much of this information and am ready to assist you with this, if you want the help.

 


Malika 
04/10/09 at 02:39 PM

Where are you from? Texas

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I need help! I want answers to my questions! I am in a relationship with a man who recently started contemplating the priesthood strongly. Its been about 6 months and he has taken a more active role in church. He started volunteering every Sunday. He tells me he still loves me but he feels a calling. HE IS VERY CONFUSED. He wants to make me happy and be with me but also fulfill his calling. He is very Catholic and I don't think he is willing to change churches. How can I help myself and him?

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Andrew Email
01/02/09 at 10:28 AM

Where are you from? USA

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I do not think a married priesthood would help with the shortage of priests. All it would do is make the difference between a priest and a layman less clear. What is the difference between a priest and a layman? Do you even know?

The answer to the shortage of priests is a return to basic Catholic fundamentals. Our seminaries are empty because seminaries do not teach traditional Catholic doctrine anymore.

Look at the Legionaries of Christ. They wear black robes. The learn Latin and Gregorian chant. They believe in purgatory, the authority of the Pope, Marian devotion, God's true presence in the Eucharist...they believe birth control is always sinful. They believe once a person is married, he/she cannot marry again until their spouse is dead...and for some reason their houses are full.

It is only a discipline, not doctrine, so of course it could change. But this is a decision the Magisterium will have to make. We are the sheep. They are the shepherds. We follow. They lead. That's just how it is in the Catholic Church.

Scott Jenkins 
01/02/09 at 12:51 AM

Where are you from? Australia

Comments:
I support the married priesthood for both theological and practical reasons.  However, I do understand the argument for celibacy.

Why not ratify a system of canonical priests (celibate), and regular priests (married).  This would work well in a regular parish which could have one canonical and one regular...and parishoners could opt to follow the canonical priest if they so wished, but for the rest of us both would be a gift.

The Church has 25 years to decide...or face far less frequent access to the Eucharist.


Christina Van Horn Email
12/30/08 at 10:20 AM

Where are you from? Mauldin, South Carolina

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I am cathlic on bothsides. I love to see the priest get married. I think they would be happier that way. I think they would have some one to come home too.

 

I hope that all priest can do this. I would love to see it happy in all the churches. I love all priest in the world.


PAUL R. CASEY 
12/09/08 at 12:49 PM

Where are you from? VT

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   I STRONGLY OPPOSE MARRIAGE FOR PRIESTS AS I HAVE BEEN 
   FORBIDDEN FROM EVEN DATING BY THESE VERY PRIESTS. I
   HAVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR A WIFE FOR OVER 20 YEARS AND
   HAVE SUFFERED NOTHING BUT DISCOURAGEMENT AND 
   DERISION FROM THE CLERGY. ONE PRIEST TOLD ME I COULD
   NOT BRING A WOMAN HOME EVEN IF I WERE FORTY 
   THOUSAND YEARS OLD. WHAT KIND OF COMPASSION IS
   THAT? THESE PEOPLE ARE HYPOCRITES AND FRAUDS AND
   I DO NOT INTEND TO SUPPORT THEIR CAUSE UNTIL I AM
   AFFORDED MY HUMAN RIGHTS.


Hank  Email
11/20/08 at 04:29 PM

Where are you from? Ohio

Comments:
I completely agree that the Roman Catholic Church should adopt the Eastern Orthodox/Catholic practice of ordaining married men to the priesthood.  Can someone get back to me on some good organizations who are actively working toward that end and with whom I could possibly join?  My preference would be a group that has a healthy dialogical relationship with the Vatican.  I'd like to get involved and be active in this worthwhile cause. 

I believe that the institutional Church, although not wanting to admit it, is working against itself and its own people by denying them(selves) the possibility of more legitimately ordained priests.  Since that is the case, it seems to me that the heart of the matter is not church discipline, but rather social justice.  Christians have a right to the Eucharist.  How can the hierarchy live with the knowledge that it only admits less than one percent of all qualified people to the sacrament of ordination?  Moreover, the practice itself is resulting in the commonality of a priesthood that is socially inept, composed of men who ordinarily would not be fit as leaders.  And if I remember Canon Law correctly, adequate leadership skills are essential for the priesthood.  In that regard the 1983 revision states that "He is to strive to lead [the faithful] to prayer, including prayer in their families, and to take a live and active part in the sacred liturgy."  Instead I'm encountering men who strive to lead the faithful to Eucharistic adoration during times of exposition.  I really think the Vatican bureaucrats are burying their heads in the sand by ignoring both the projections and the realities of the current situation, and they're doing it for all the wrong reasons. 

I do not believe that allowing for optional celibacy would not be at least somewhat effective in the struggle against declining priests.  From the conversations I've had with other men my age (30), I'm convinced that there are many married men (supported by their wives) both fit for and willing to consider ordination to the priesthood.  Granted, that might not mean that, if the discipline is changed that thousands and thousands of men will respond to the call.  But why limit ourselves by keeping out those who would respond to the call?  Moreover, the objection that it will be too difficult to provide for married priests' families is a cop-out.  Would not the same challenge present itself if suddenly the shortage halted and reversed itself?  It's not right to not act simply because of anticipated challenges that may or may not arise out of acting. 

If someone can get back to me on this with some advice on how I could get involved, I would appreciate it. 
  

Tom 
11/07/08 at 07:45 PM

Where are you from? Missouri

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Optional Celibacy for priests is the will of God. I left the Roman Catholic Church and was ordained in the OCC church tradition. After many years of Roman Seminary studies I left to get married but continued to hear God call me to the priesthood. I answered the call to bring the sacraments to God's people.  The People of God must pray and work for a new model of priesthood, so a balance can be reached for married priest and celibate priest to minister side by side.
Peace,
Fr. Tom osb
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