07/02/09 at 02:27 PM
Where are you from? mexico
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i am priests and i agree with you and movement
i always pray for new things for my church
i want one day see the norm of celibacy dawn this is freedom for share time with my girlfriend
06/11/09 at 04:22 AM
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05/13/09 at 10:12 AM
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Malika, help your man to analyze very carefully what he is getting into. Just about every aspect of ministry he can do as a married permanent deacon -- AFTER he gets married to you, if that is where you are heading. In fact he can serve the Church in a lot of ways as a married layman. Only three tasks require making that celibacy vow: 1) Celebrating the Eucharist; 2) Hearing confessions and absolving sins; 3) Extreme unction of the sick and dying (in non-emergency circumstances). A married deacon can perform weddings and baptisms. He can preach and read the Gospel during Mass.
Or encourage him to try out seminary. When I was in graduate school, my then boyfriend abruptly informed me that he had a vocation. Well, I thought, who am I to oppose the will of God? So off he went to seminary. After two years, he decided it wasn't his thing and wanted to come back but by then I was no longer interested and told him to get lost. He's happily married to someone else, thank God.
Bottom line: A lot of guys find out that the priestly life is not for them, especially when they realize that the Church is not a democracy and they can't dictate HOW they are going to serve God once they take that vow of obedience and put on that collar.
05/11/09 at 08:38 AM
Where are you from? Washington, DC
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Yes, there should be a Marriage OPTION in the priesthood. I support it- see my blog, http://www.democracytruth.blogspot.com
I think that the women who get caught in the middle are the worst served ----they just get totally abused.
05/08/09 at 01:05 AM
Where are you from? Australia
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I find the church hypocritical when it will accept minister who come to the Catholic Church who are married while it restricts the clerical duties of ordained priests who wish to get married.
05/05/09 at 09:56 AM
Where are you from? Ohio
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Malika, your post underscores the crux of this issue. Why should anyone have to choose between ministry and the woman he loves? My heart goes out to you. Such a sad and unnecessary choice. Andrew, your argument is weak and incoherent. Why is “being different” from lay people of any intrinsic value, unless that “difference” is manifest in greater compassion, sanctity, excellence in preaching and pastoral care? People want relevant priests who understand the challenges that they experience in their own lives, not “different” ivory tower dwellers. At a time when half of the worlds parishes lack a resident priests, when dioceses around the world are closing parishes for lack of priests, you blithely acquiesce with your lame demand that priest must be “different.” You cite the Legionnaires and how they wear black robes and learn Latin. What is your point? Are they better than the priests who wear white robes and speak Spanish? Why not address the hundreds of thousands of Catholics who hunger for the Eucharist because there are no priests to care for them? Why not address the studies indicating a fourfold increase in vocations of priests could marry? You want different? Here’s how you get “different” priests. First, women need not apply (this is a theologically independent, albeit important injustice for another website). Second, of those MEN, only men who are ready to forever repress even the possibility of any sexual or romantic relationships, step forward – now we are looking at a small and dare I say odd population. Third, from that group, select only those who are psychologically and sexually healthy and balanced. You are now left with a very small, “different” pool of candidates. Fourth, at last, you can begin to consider whether any of these actually have the faith, gifts and talents for excellent ministry. Oh yeah, these guys have proven themselves to be different all right. Just ask the thousands of clerical sexual abuse victims. I propose an alternate process: Consider who has the faith, gifts and talents for excellent ministry. Period. To Graham Briscombe, I am grateful that you have taken the initiative to create this website, but frankly, it could and should be much more than it is. This is the most pressing issue in the RC church today, a change that can happen and must happen. The website has potential, but little content. I would like to see much more solid information and resources here. Let’s inform. Let’s provide a history of the many married popes throughout the centuries, and the history of married priests who served faithfully and continue to serve. Let’s provide charts and statistics on the alarming and unprecedented widening of the ratio of Catholics to priests, both in the U.S. and around the world. Let’s provide the theology that people need to understand the canonical distinction between doctrine and discipline. Let’s provide FAQs and forums to address frequent arguments, such as whether priests could balance time between work and family, or whether parishes could afford to pay married priests. Let’s provide sample letters and petitions that concerned faithful can send to their bishops to clamor for this change. This should be a place where people who care about the Church and its future can learn, network, organize and mobilize. What are the action steps that people can take? I would like to work with you to make it a better site. I have already compiled much of this information and am ready to assist you with this, if you want the help.
04/10/09 at 03:39 PM
Where are you from? Texas
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I need help! I want answers to my questions! I am in a relationship with a man who recently started contemplating the priesthood strongly. Its been about 6 months and he has taken a more active role in church. He started volunteering every Sunday. He tells me he still loves me but he feels a calling. HE IS VERY CONFUSED. He wants to make me happy and be with me but also fulfill his calling. He is very Catholic and I don't think he is willing to change churches. How can I help myself and him?
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